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dark knight rises – but not above the joker !

24 Jul

 

in any creative person’s life, one swansong will come which just happens magically, and however successful or legendary his or her other creations may be, that one ‘special’ flagship creation will always destined to remain unbeaten. even by his/her own-self. as art is not laboratory science. that particular creation is blessed or destined to be having midas touch, and its not just from a creator, but something invisible – an extra X factor is added into it, which even creator cant repeat. it doesn’t mean thier other outcomes are of inferior quality or less memorable. but that one life changing creation will became his/ her shadow or stamp for the life. for chetan bhagat , its ‘five point someone’, for sachin its innings against australia, for for for mirza ghalib its ‘hazaro khwahishe aisi’, for ARR its ‘taal’, for ramesh sippy its ‘sholay’, for salim-javed its ‘deewar’, for james camaroon, its ‘titenic’ ( however, he came extremely close to it, that too back to back in ‘avatar’ – a rare triumph like our suraj barjatya’s MPK & HAKK), for alfred hitchkok its ‘psycho’, for micheal jackson its ‘thriller’- the list is endless. thats why i doubt if J.K. rawling can ever touch harry potter again. only some chosen one next to god type creators like Steven Spielberg can break this ‘law of nature’.

for Christopher Nolan, its ‘Dark Knight’ (2008).

and, Nolan – a genius filmmaker to whom i bow down always, is no Spielberg.

i had already sensed that ‘hand of god’ in dark knight, and expected that barring once in a lifetime miracle, its extremely tough to repeat the height of intoxication to ‘dark knight’ again in same premises / backdrop and that’s also too soon.  its hard. really really hard.

and sadly, i felt so after watching ‘dark knight rises’ at home of Nolan, in Hollywood, that too in IMAX. that too in one of the best IMAX of USA of universal. as prescribed by Nolan himself.

and like most of the trilogies fails to maintain impact in third act (with record breaking box office success and acclaim though) – be it LOTR, MATRIX, SPIDER MAN, POTC, ALIENS, JURASSIC PARK, TERMINATOR (again there are exceptions like ‘star wars’) – this BATMAN TRIOLOGY got hit from its own legendary second part ‘DARK KNIGHT’.

the film is not bad. its watchable. in fact two time watch. Nolan has composed breathtaking action scenes and some well written dialogues and dramtaic scenes. and i have no problem with the talkative side of it – as far as conversation is engaging and novel to me. with grand background score, sincere performances by cast and an noir undercurrent of heavy philosophical angle established since long in the series – its fine film. but just not that great. perhaps my expectation rises too much. perhaps film rises much then needed.

and not so class!

its impossible to beat the ‘joker’ and even Nolan couldn’t outdo it. (comparison are inevitable as we are talking about installment of same universe). villains here are so predictably uni-dimensional that any 007 villain can laughing out loud in graveyard. with same plotline of terrorism, i had seen many better thrilling products of Hollywood itself. john travolta to tom cruise, matt damon to robert downey jr we have seen them all. too much stress on portraying batman as tragic hero makes the whole point unrealistic to me. as ultimately it must be batman movie, not ‘pyasaa’ without a shawl, with a mask !

the climax is surprisingly having too much similarities with hold your breath (and close your eyes if you don’t want spoilers) , ‘Agent Vinod’ !! WTF😛. and the so called ‘twists’ are domain area for abbas-mustan. infact, a set up for major plot point somehow instantly reminded me ‘soldier’ of bobby deol ! actually, this film holds many unintentional similarities with our Bollywood movies. we have seen it all in sunny deol or sanjay datt or ajay devgan or naseeruddin shah or akshay kumar or khan films. here it is narrated in serious way with dash of heaviness.  and those prison in well, is more absurd rather than absorbing and i would have send a copy of duma’s ‘count of monte christo’ tto warner bro.s for future reference.🙂

and, the core message / ‘gyan’ that Nolan wanted to give us is though compelling and makes sense – its nothing but repetitive extension of its worthy predecessor ‘Dark Knight’ . same notes, same brush strokes, its like attending same lecture twice. and that dilutes its impact to me. what through joker is perfectly narrated, this time boringly narrated as there is nothing unusual and i can sense / predict most of the scenes in advance, including dialogues !  besides that some set pieces and events way too familiar with past Nolan movies – like real identity of a crucial character is hidden, black suites and yellow lighting during some important action (Don 2 or the avengers offered better surprises ! and daredevil has better dark culmination ).

so, the film has length (2hr45 min.) and width(IMAX though jarringly intermittent) but lacks depth. i mean, it has depth, but not of Nolan’s prestige or inception or dark knight. one may ask ‘why so serious?’😉

still, its very good watch, though catwoman has half backed characterization, this time all ladies on screen are sizzling unlike ‘dark knight’ and alfred the micheal always rocks.

its what i felt. you would have felt otherwise. i will surely miss best batman of all Christian Bale, those fantastic batman / gotham universe created by Nolan, already missing joker the ledger and that missed target in final chapter which could have rise much above then we are being offered and already accepted happily.

i repeat, still its a must watch film by many standard, may be flawless, may get critical appreciation this time too. and i shall watch it again for its many lyrical qualities that i have not discussed here. but not that all time favorite memorable classic. eventually you may realize that. i wish Nolan make at least one another batman movie instead of suggested robin at the end with fresh outlook. i wish film’s vision would have been as exciting as its visuals.

what rises up , up and up…will fall ultimately with its own burden. that’s how all legend ends.

superheroes and super-makers are no exception of this laws of gravity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Posted by on July 24, 2012 in cinema

 

83 responses to “dark knight rises – but not above the joker !

  1. Farzana

    July 24, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    written in very simple english…..seems very good though…. n ya….. want to enjoy the movie as well….. but I hv to wait as its time for fasting😉 …..right e now njoying yr review of the movie…..:-D:-D

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    • tapan shah

      July 24, 2012 at 2:57 PM

      my thought — slight hard english,yet understandable u can say….

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  2. AaruC

    July 24, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Jay bhai, according to me, “The Prestige” is Nolan’s best work till date, even better than TDK. Do watch if you haven’t.

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    • jay vasavada JV

      July 24, 2012 at 2:18 PM

      read my this post fully, word by word if u havent..😉🙂

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  3. Harshal Kharod (@ConnectHarshal)

    July 24, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Higher Expectations always Disappoints people. Best way to watch movie is to put your previous assumption, perception aside and let The Dark Knight Rise.

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    • jay vasavada JV

      July 24, 2012 at 2:19 PM

      sorry . u r telling me to forget second chapter out of 3 part novel in continuation.. cant do it.

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      • Harshal Kharod (@ConnectHarshal)

        July 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM

        I do not insist to forget previous chapters. My way of looking to this is to expect least and enjoy the movie. It’s difficult to follow and match higher standards/benchmark every now and then.

        Why do we always end up in comparing it to previous ones or similar stories?

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        • jay vasavada JV

          July 24, 2012 at 2:31 PM

          u didnt get it🙂 coz its similar stories or having linked wth previous one is valid reason to compsare for me.

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          • tapan shah

            July 24, 2012 at 3:00 PM

            @harshal–vaat jo high expectation na rakhvani j tame karta ho to evu karine tamne tees maar khan thi mandine tashan ane 100% movies of hollywood pan gamti j hashe ..kem…..and yes i too keep high expectation..bcoz joker made me do so……..

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            • Harshal Kharod (@ConnectHarshal)

              July 24, 2012 at 3:10 PM

              Dear Tapan, I watch movies to learn, un-lean & explore various aspects which can help us tackle real life situation (and forget problems for couple of hours). And if doesn’t work/you don’t like, that’s fine. You don’t have right to criticize things which you’re not capable to even think of (forget making). They have done their hard-work and learn to appreciate those efforts.

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              • tapan shah

                July 24, 2012 at 3:21 PM

                totally accept ur first 2.5 lines..bt when expectation not met fully how can i be happy and y should i made me happy ..y should i cheat tapan????for last 2.5 lines—-i pay for movie,i pay my hours for movie and when i dont satisfy ..i never see hardwork of director as an objection to make bad movies or less good movies..he is not my brother or father..yes when he makes best movies like joker(d.n.),i spread days(not hours)appreciating it.with my frns..i am antimwadi..ok…

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              • Samir Joshi (@SamiirrJ)

                July 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM

                Harshal, don’t waste your time in arguing with this fellow, its pointless. He doesn’t know what he is talking.

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                • ashishdevre

                  July 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM

                  I think I am with Tapan……
                  If we appreciate the people for their good work and put them on the pedestal for it, we have right to criticize them. I think even Nolan and JV wouldn’t have problem with that. But let me clear that I like TDKR compared to AVENGERS.

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              • tapan shah

                November 12, 2012 at 7:35 PM

                i watch movies to live

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        • Hetal Deliwala

          July 30, 2012 at 12:20 PM

          the Problem in TDR is Villain… any super hero Movie should have strong characterization of a Villain (like Joker or Ra’s al Ghul in Earlier parts..)… which is missing in TDR…this is the main reason the movie doesn’t hit a chord as earlier one…also as Indicated by Jay unfinished characterization of Cat women also makes an dent…

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  4. saunak dave

    July 24, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    ‘either u die hero…. or u live that much to see yourself becoming a villain’ …….actually, gotham city needs christopher nolan… he is a genious… even the idea to make ‘the inception’ is just novel…’dreaming in a dream is just an awesomeful experience for all of us’…. actually, i felt that, you are too much into the Dark Knight-2008…. (reminding you, your genius article over the villain Heath Ledger, and his acting nd all the f**king dialogues)… if it is a the law then, let it falling down….. the best way to see that, they tries to rise….. and after all this, you are still my best columnist, best writer Gujarat has ever produce, best critics and the perfect humanbeing….. rocko Mr. Jay Vasavada………..

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    • jay vasavada JV

      July 24, 2012 at 2:31 PM

      hmmmm

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      • saunak dave

        July 24, 2012 at 2:44 PM

        bas sir….. aaatlu j… kaik to kehvu hatu,… it was my wish that some one about your status and caliber respond me in negative or positive way……:)

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        • jay vasavada JV

          July 24, 2012 at 3:03 PM

          thnxxx saunak…

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          • saunak dave

            July 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

            u know what……??? Mr. Jay Vasavada made my day………!!!! and he dont know that….. thank you so very much……….;)

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  5. Samir Joshi (@SamiirrJ)

    July 24, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Movies should be enjoyed, cherished and celebrated, not reviewed.

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    • jay vasavada JV

      July 24, 2012 at 2:39 PM

      who is reviewing? m sharing my thought abt it what felt..in fact u r reviewing me😛

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      • Samir Joshi (@SamiirrJ)

        July 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM

        I didn’t review you. I just shared my thought on your thoughts, what I felt. Maybe you should learn the definition of a movie review. Maybe you are paid by Saif Ali Khan so that people go and watch Cocktail instead of The Dark Knight Rises.😛😛😛

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        • jay vasavada JV

          July 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM

          lolz. may be saif paid nolan to use ditto agent vinod climax😛

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        • tapan shah

          July 24, 2012 at 3:03 PM

          @samir…i think tame tamara jivan ma ek pan critical movie nahi joi hoy…i realy feel sorry for u….best of luck for rohit shetty…sajid….farah….david dhavan movies(only)…..

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          • Samir Joshi (@SamiirrJ)

            July 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM

            You should never climb a moving vehicle and an ongoing discussion, you will fall face first. Next I think you should take English classes to understand the comment and the movie as well. Up Yours!

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            • tapan shah

              July 24, 2012 at 3:28 PM

              tamara chalta vehicle par hu chadhi gayo etle lage chhe tame tamari disha badlavi nakhi(irrelevant comments)..by the way hu e vehicle par betho chhu jena driver jv chhe ane jena ghana mathi ek passenger tame chho…and yes…i had read each words…each full stops…each commas…each spaces even…yet thank for ur advise..aajna jamana ma mafat ma pan kon aape chhe!!!!!!!

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  6. Jitatman Pndya

    July 24, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Alfred won the Heart this time.. The Conversation betn Wayne n him was so Touching.. One of the BEST EMOTIONAL SCENE I have EVER Watched in Hollywood movies..
    Cotillard❤ was Surprise package..
    Freeman, Oldman Both were Superb..
    Anne.. Ohhhh.. Best Catwoman Ever..
    the scene I like the most was when Wayne remembered the Fear why he bacame Batman n Jumps Successfully without rope.. Jus Osummm..
    Of course None can even Touch "The Dark Knight" n Especially 'Joker'.. that movie was Out standing.. even Ramesh sippy cant make another Sholay..
    bt I think ARR can make Pukar, Guru, Rang De Basanti, Jodha Akbar.. Taal was Taal bt though his work is never-the-less..😉

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  7. Harsukh Thanki

    July 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    Similarities with ‘Agent Vinod’ in the climax also surprised me, but I think Batman comics are available since decades, so they might have taken ideas from there.

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  8. tapan shah

    July 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    will feel same as u..when i will watch movie…joker ane eni vaato(aadhyatmik kahi shakay tevi) really unforgettable..dark night ma joker hato ke jokerthi dark night hatu..e nakki na thai shake.ane thay toye badhano jawab same j hashe..just for curiosity tame je best theatre ma movie joyu teni ticket ni rupiyama keemat ketli ganay?????

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  9. vaibhav patel

    July 24, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    Well said tht there is laws of gravity …
    When miranda comes on screen at tht time I feel tht she will make trouble in end of movie , means its a mistake by nolan tht normal people cn guess actual story line,,,,, suspense is week and not tht nuclear bomb thing is very repetitive….
    Although I njoy lot thn avengers …bcoz its previous impect of nolan, bale , and joker….

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  10. jigar hareja (@jigarhareja)

    July 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    totally disagree..TDK is abt joker vs gothom while TDKR is smthing very different.THK isn’t the foundation for TDKR..and for nolan,one can’t select his best work so far..he always rises…

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  11. Prasham Trivedi

    July 24, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    Sorry for being skeptical but somehow WB and DC must have pursued people to end the trilogy. Nolan didn’t want to return for the third. Bale’s condition to portray batman is not fulfilled by including Robin. Now even without nolan, we can expect a re-boot of Batman with Robin or separate nightwing series (according to comics) and bruce wayne can return anytime to guide robin..thus at the end studios have every doors open to cash the popularity of the dark knight trilogy. The movie is the worst from nolan but still better than the others, It’s not perfect ending but ended better than Raimi’s trilogy.

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  12. Animesh

    July 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    જય,
    યાર તમારું અંગ્રેજી આટલું ખરાબ હશે એવી કલ્પના નહોતી. આજકાલ બધા ફેસબુક અને twitter પર ટૂંકાણમાં લખે છે પણ જયારે તમે આખેઆખા વાક્યો લખો છો ત્યારે પકડાઈ જાય છે.
    ગુજરાતી લેખકનું અંગ્રેજી સારું હોવું જરૂરી નથી. પણ તમે અંગ્રેજીમાં લખ્યું તેથી જણાવ્યું.
    અનિમેષ

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    • jay vasavada JV

      July 25, 2012 at 12:47 AM

      * ek to hu express karva lakhu chhu, duniya ne dekhadva nahi. maru angreji jo kharab lage to billgates thi steve jobbs sudhina aathi ye vadhu kharab angtreji ma lakhe bole chhe. pakdya no harakh matr gujaratione thato hoy chhe. hu atyre pan america ma chhu . haju sudhi ma angreji ni bhool kadhnaro ek pan american mane malyo nathi. ultu angreji ma y ahi lecture capital hill ma aapyu chhe😉 mane to moj pade em lakhu chhu ne vyakran na ghana rules to gujarati ma y me todi nakhya chhe. btw, atyre aa j rite lakhay chhe.

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      • Animesh

        July 25, 2012 at 2:33 AM

        જય,
        અંગ્રેજી બીલ ગેટ્સ કે સ્ટીવ જોબ્સની માતૃભાષા છે એટલે એ લોકો colloquial ભાષામાં બોલતા હોય છે. જયારે તમે ખોટું અંગ્રેજી જ લખો છો. આ બંનેમાં ફરક છે.
        ખોટું અંગ્રેજી બોલવા માટે કોઈ અમેરિકન કે ગુજરાતી તમને ના જ ટોકે કારણકે આ તમારી માતૃભાષા નથી તે બધા સમજે છે. પણ તમે ખોટું અંગ્રેજી જો લખો તો હજાર અમેરિકાનો ટોકવા આવશે.
        ગુજરાતી કે સંસ્કૃતમાંથી ઉતરી આવેલી ભાષાઓ ની ખૂબી એ છે કે વાક્યના મૂળતત્વને આધીન રહીને ઘણી રીતે અર્થ બદલ્યા વિના વાક્યરચના તોડી-મરોડી શકાય છે. એટલે તમારી ગુજરાતી વ્યાકરણના નિયમો તોડવાની વાત હાસ્યાસ્પદ છે.
        મેં પહેલા કહ્યું એમ તમને અંગ્રેજી આવડવું જરૂરી નથી કારણકે તમે ગુજરાતી ભાષાના લેખક છો. કે હું એકલદોકલ spelling કે grammar ની પણ વાત નથી કરતો. પણ અંગ્રેજીમાં લખવાના તમારા પ્રાથમિક જ્ઞાન વિષે વાત કરી રહ્યો છું.
        પણ અંગ્રેજીમાં આવડતું ના હોય તો પણ લખવાનો અભરખો/હરખ ફક્ત ગુજરાતી લેખકોને જ હોય છે!
        અનિમેષ

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        • Japan Pathak

          July 25, 2012 at 3:06 AM

          Interesting comments! I had the same comments for Jay but didn’t write them down here. I probably couldn’t have written it so well as Mr Animesh anyway. I agree with Mr Animesh. I don’t pick on anyone’s bad English, nor do I claim that my English is picture perfect. But I see what Mr Animesh is trying to say here about Jay’s written English.
          — Japan Pathak

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          • tori gori

            July 25, 2012 at 6:50 PM

            areeeee yaar sav sachu na lakho..jv upset thay jay che..his internal sensitive world not accept the negative comments..bhale kehto farto hoy k hu accept karish pan e etli badhi mehnat kare che k jethi have -ve comments accept nathi thati…have enu balanace dhime dhime bagadtu jay che..but after all his writing is dazzlingly beautifulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

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        • jay vasavada JV

          July 26, 2012 at 12:08 AM

          post pan cell ma thi kari hati ane atya

          re london chhu etle fonts vanchara nathi. parat aavi ne javab lakhish. sorry.

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          • tori gori

            July 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM

            kai vandho nai JV..but please take care🙂

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        • lav

          July 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

          Hi Animesh,

          Mane ee nathi samajay rahyu ke pehla to problem shu chhe article ma? ane biju kaya angreji ni vaat kare chhe jena paramane aa thik nathi, american english, irish, australian, british ke pachhi medieval.

          Hu atyare London ma chhu ane ahiya french, polish, spanish, russian, swedish, german, chinese, arabs, african, indian ane american badha english j bole chhe ane chhata harek vachhe farak hoy chhe..

          Eagar test karvu hoy to badha ne Bachelor kehva kejo etle khabar padi jase..
          bekelorios(arab) thi layine bakalor shudhi sambhdava madse

          ane rahi vaat grammer ni to duniya ma digital language(0,1) sivay koi langage nu grammer perfact nathi..

          Sala aa tamara jeva Indian sivay me koi ne nathi joyu evu keta ke tamaru english perfect nathi…
          Aam to J. K. Rolling na harry potter ma pan grammar mistake chhe ja jayi ne have ene pan sikhadav..

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          • Animesh

            July 28, 2012 at 2:59 AM

            @lav
            તમારી આખી કોમેન્ટનો સાર એના પહેલા વાક્યમાં જ આવી ગયો😉
            અનિમેષ

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    • shiny

      July 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM

      hi animesh,
      i did not agree with you when i read your comment, but then i read the jv article again, and bingo, i think you are right.

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  13. TEJAS K. VYAS

    July 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    જયભાઈ…..નોલાન એક એવો દિગ્દર્શક છે, એવો લેખક છે, કે જે હદ સુધી આપણે વિચારી પણ ના શકતા હોઈ એ હદ સુધી એ લખે છે અને મુવી બનાવે છે…’ ધ ડાર્ક નાઈટ’, ‘ઇન્સેપ્સન’, ‘મેમેન્તો’..
    અને આ વખતે પણ એને એ નિયમ જાળવી રાખ્યો છે….!! I have seen two times ‘THE DARK KNIGHT RISES’..:)
    Its awesome movie Jaybhai…tame aavu kevi rite kahi sako cho! me dark knight pan bahu vaar joi che…ena badha j dialogue ne chavi gayo chu pan ‘THE DARK KNIGHT RISES’ joti vakhate mane Joker ni sahej pan yaad na aavi ane te pan bev vaar…in fact, 2nd time to mane ulti maza aavi..tame pan biji vaar juo Sir, tamaro thought badlai jase…I m guaranteed…:)

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  14. tejas

    July 24, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    i haven’t seen such an gud postmortem of the movie….yet i would say as JV has said it is the spectacular, monolithic movie to watch… hats of JV..

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  15. jignesh rathod

    July 24, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    not that all time favorite memorable classic.

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  16. Nishant

    July 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM

    Movie is already at #10 in IMDB top 250.. May be it will come down eventually… but you must not review Nolan’s movie without watching it thrice.. And please don’t compare it with – – –

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  17. Malay Shah

    July 24, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    its really pity to see so many comments against the thoughts of jaybhai. he has shared his views, if you dont agree, dont be. it is such a open secret that if u really liked/ loved any thing, u do compare it with similar brand. and its open secret again ke, best thing always remains ONE. for me its PRESTIGE, for JV its DARK KNIGHT (i guess) for others it could be ………..
    just chill and enjoy other IMDB top 250 movies..
    and jay bhi, why the format of your blog is a bit clumsy. its not “that much” user friendly. again its a personal feeling. nothing personal. lol.
    cheers.

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  18. Nimish Rathod

    July 24, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    Agree with the thought that its really good but not as good as THE DARK KNIGHT. As mentioned TDK movie has its own Aura. Heath Ledger #RESPECT.

    But, each movie has its own experiences and the universe. By this movie, I learned the meaning of “RISE”. Deshi… Deshi… Basara… Basara…

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    • Nimish Rathod

      July 25, 2012 at 12:01 AM

      Never thought the word “RISE” to be this “DEEP”. That’s the magic of Nolan for me…

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  19. pinu007

    July 25, 2012 at 1:35 AM

    થેંક ગોડ હું પેલા જોય આવ્યો
    નહિતર વસાવડા સાહેબ ની ચાબુક બજી થી હું એક અલ્ટીમેટ ફિલ્મ મીસ કરી દેત
    સાહેબ તમે ગમે તેમ કહો આ ફિલમ માં આવું તો કૈક જાદુઈ હતું કે જેનાથી બધા અંજાઈ ગયા
    હવે આખી જીન્દગી તો જોકર જોકર ની હાઈ તો નહિ દેવાય ને
    હવે એ બિચારો જણ ગુજરી ગયો એમાં નોલન નો સુ વાંક
    તો હવે બેન અને બેટમેન માટે હંધાય થોડી તાળિયું પાડીએ અને આવતા વર્ષ સુધી રાહ જોયે સુપરમેન ની
    બાકી તમને અમારા કરતા વધારે ખબર પડે એટલે જાજુ બોલાય્જ નહિ
    અને હા ઉપર ની ફટાક્યાં બજી માં કોઈ ને ઓળખતો નથી અમ મારો કોઈ હાથ નથી

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  20. Karnik

    July 25, 2012 at 2:44 AM

    hello sir,
    I read ur thoughts nd at some point i agree,at some i rily disagree!
    Firstly wil share The dark knight rises,it was up 2 d mark as u said nd watchable nd a lot enjoyble bt ya d problem is dat u cnt beat ur great creatn bt dat doesnt mean u cnt make any odr ! For me Inceptn nd dark knight both were remarkble cinema dat Gr8 nolan given to our generatn, i thnk 4 me evry directr has 1 point of view nd evry fan has 1 expectn if it satisfied you its done we dnt want evry cinema gve us gr8 movies! I wasnt expectng dis tym dat tdkr wil cme wid twist nd turns i was expectng dat hw it wil engage ur emotnly,it engages bt nt lyk tdk ! Bt its sad dat wheter don 2 nd agent vinod gve us surprises bt it faild in almst evry expect ..its ok to deal wid when u knw dis is gng 2 happn bt u enjoy d seq hw it happns! Nolan works big tym then any odr directr or say grand directr u knw y coz he has ability 2 connect his audnce wid his movie,it makes sense ..feel rily sad hw our audnce is cheatd by our countrys director in d name of mindless entartnr or they said its masala movie! Why? Whetr its ready,bodygaurd,singham any of them its jst example…evrytme i feel rily critics r smetme absolulty correct,!
    Nolan has creatd best triology of batman or say he made d best series of superhero, . Christopher Nolan has created a dark, genuinely frightening, grand finale to his Batman trilogy. In his hands, the comic book material becomes something else – a thing of horror and beauty and epic scale!
    The dark knight rises rily rise u know why its beacuse it all ends bt with a gr8 dark knight,gr8 chrtn balle,michele, genius hans zimmer ,unforgetble Joker ‘heath’ nd who all creatd dis ‘memento’epic journy nd 4 me biggr then any other Directr ‘Christopher Nolan’ …u gve us satisfyng conclusn! Last bt nt least a letter by chris nolan aftr cmplte its triology
    http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/x1xxb/christopher_nolans_goodbye_letter_to_the_batman/

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  21. Chirag

    July 25, 2012 at 3:06 AM

    For me, this movie is about “Batman” and not about any “villain”. For it to rise above “The Dark Night”, “joker” must rise again with “Ledger (not possible anymore)” or “Kevin Spacey (Seven fame)”.

    So here, the batman rose above the dark night!

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  22. Mihir T

    July 25, 2012 at 5:03 AM

    Animesh… I dont see anything wrong in JV’s english… It’s a colloquial english… ane Guajarati bhasha na writer hova no matlab nathi k English na avadavu… shun duniya ma loko ne 2 language nathi avadati hoti…

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    • Animesh

      July 28, 2012 at 3:07 AM

      @Mihir T,
      તમે તો ભાઈ ગુજરાતીમાં પણ દાટ વાળો છો. મેં લખ્યું કે ‘ગુજરાતી લેખકનું અંગ્રેજી સારું હોવું જરૂરી નથી.’
      અને તમે એનો અર્થ કાઢ્યો ‘ane Guajarati bhasha na writer hova no matlab nathi k English na avadavu… shun duniya ma loko ne 2 language nathi avadati hoti…’
      colloquial english નો જવાબ ઉપર મેં આપી જ દીધો છે. હવે એનોય કોઈક ભળતો અર્થ ના કાઢતા!
      અનિમેષ

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  23. Mihir T

    July 25, 2012 at 5:06 AM

    khabar nahi loko ne aa movie ma shun gamyu chhe… I think JV has been very generous about this movie… lot of story gaps people are not able to see… I really don’t see anything great about this movie… Yes – I’m Nolan’s fan but he missed the mark this time..

    I think people haven’t understand TDK, cuz if they would’ve, there is no way they can like this movie…

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  24. Akhil

    July 25, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    yes…true… felt the same way….
    obviously ‘The Rises’ has rised most of the energetic hormones available in my body
    freshed up my mind with satisfaction of watching such tight film after a long time.

    but, didn’t even touched those strings of my heart where previous version literally played Simphony….!!

    i remember once u have stated in the review of film ‘Guzarish’, that a creator falls in love with his own creature at times.
    and tries to recreat it again and again.(May not be the exact case with Mr. Nolan…!)

    But, the X factor is ‘Magic’, It happens somehow, someway…anyway….but not in some
    Particular way or predefined way….It just happens…Magic can’t be Created..

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  25. Dipak Parmar

    July 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    look like english version of AGNIPATH. villain in strong till end, hero has no power till end, and teist and turn are produced by two heroin!!!!!!!!!!!

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  26. Samir Joshi (@SamiirrJ)

    July 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    People who are just blindly agreeing to what “JV” has written don’t seem to have an opinion of their own. They just seem to want to please him. Thats pathetic! Why do a post mortem of the movie? Enjoy it. See it this way, no one likes comparison, you yourself wouldn’t like if you keep getting compared to your sibling even if he or she is from the same parent. I don’t see the point of even telling all this to all so called expert movie critics here but I guess maybe you should go and create something worthwhile on your own in your life before bashing up someones effort.

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  27. burninin'ice

    July 25, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    Out of respect for ‘Heath Ledger’, the Joker is never once mentioned for the whole film. -from imdb trivia

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  28. joker

    July 26, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object……………………….

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  29. ashishdevre

    July 26, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Just like Spielberg, for Nolan also, it is difficult to decide among The Prestige, The Dark Knight, Inception, Memento and many more coming in future, as his masterpiece. To me comparison between Spielberg and Nolan is same as Sachin and Bradman. I would go for Nolan instead of Spielberg.

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  30. hars

    July 26, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    wat a waste of time over some comments from a author

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  31. MICHAEL

    July 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    bhalu thajo tamaaru Sir,
    kharekhar Aghri Noto jode tamaro paalo pade 6….!

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  32. lav

    July 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    The Dark Knight is my all time favorite movie(I read your review on Joker and TDK I simply loved it, though your best one is still Aks)

    You know what I have seen TDK over and over again just for Joker its so intense and witty. As u said in your review he was not dangerous he terrifying.
    Since I saw TDK first time I was waiting for next one.. to see wo could triumph this.. following all blogs and Nolan in every media..

    Now when TDKR released, I went for movie on first day itself but biggest disappointment. I think Halle Berry was a much better catwomen then her, Alfred seems like a Ramdev baba, Gordon is another cop, and villain oh i dont want 2say anything its so pathetic I guess Shakti Kapoor would have done better. the only constant which holds this free fall is Christian Bale as good as Machinist, Prestige, BB or TDK. the only reason why u should not leave theater before climax starts.

    The point of failure here is story it seems like they were into so much hurry to end this series that everything falls apart.

    I always used to like DC movies over Marvell specially Batman series (New one of course)because they are very intense. Marvel movie a re kinda childish leave your brain sorta.. specially Spiderman i can’t imagine a movie where everyone is calling their near and dear by their full name most of the time.(Mary Jane, Peter Parker, Uncle Rob oh really.. now tell me the address as well). Batman series was with dept for tinkers.. but all gone now..

    Below is an excerpt from Metro London on Marvel vs DC..

    In light, cheery contrast, Avengers Assemble’s candy-coloured world offers japes, wisecracks and comedy banter. And with four superheroes in the shape of Thor, Captain America, Hulk and Iron Man – not to mention A-list plus-ones – busy pulling together to save the planet, there’s scant time for angsty, individual navel-gazing. Audiences gobbled it up.
    But to reduce their vision to dark versus light or, indeed, 2D versus 3D (Nolan preferring to work in IMAX rather than 3D to deliver that extra wow factor), is to dumb down the power of both directors. The triumph of Avengers writer/director Joss Whedon is ultimately one of wit and synthesis. He allows each hero enough breathing space so that, instead of becoming a huge CGI-effects mess, his movie feels miraculously character-led. Despite its bulging attractions, Avengers Assemble is still a terrific studio product, masterminded to create one giant franchise out of four mega-franchises, plus generate spin-off sequels to be directed by assorted hands for hire.
    Nolan, on the other hand, is, like Tim Burton, as close as you get to a studio auteur. Delivering daring action thrills to a mass audience while demanding they bring their brains has raised the bar for a genre that critics have often dismissed as cartoonish or childish.

    Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/film/905674-will-marvels-avengers-assemble-beat-the-dark-knight-rises#ixzz21oWWqIMc

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  33. Yagnesh Trivedi

    July 27, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    Jay bhai, when are you returning from your trip abroad? The reason why we await your arrival is that you can start writing on your blog and we can read those posts on regular basis. Please do come back early and start sharing with us your views and thoughts on your blog as usually.

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  34. Kunal

    July 30, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Dear JV,
    Just read your article on DKR
    I think Christopher Nolan Director of Batman Series has done it again,
    Action, Thrills, Suspense, Emotion and Super Hero as Batman all kept in a balanced manner and Fantastic work by each character made the Epic movie a memorable one in the Batman Series, Nolan is not a full that he ends this with Batman’s Death, We know super hero never dies and it applies here to a different super hero movie which is far better than other Super hero movies, Maja Aavi Bhai mane to , Ha ek khami hati, joker ni “Why So Serious?” @the Dark Night Rueses Juo ne mast raho @ Galaxy Cinema,rajkot First Day Second Show!!!!! 20.07.2012

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  35. nirav

    July 31, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    i was disappointed…there are lot better masterpiece in Hollywood then this one but u just cant compare 2001 or say pacino flicks with dark knight…..nolan did want to push movie as high as he can..but i think something like Mission impossible 4 …tom cruise hired best stuntmen , writers , actors …but it lacked something …something that previous movies in series had…the main point i would like to point is this” TDKR has so many bits which seems like typical bollywood type or say didnt match the previous standards if nolan…like truck is stopped and Taliya dies while speaking last words of wisdom …death of Bane was very disappointing …the enemy superior to Bruce in physical and motivational way just dies in a blink with shot…it doesnt fit ….enter miranda…hey i m actually Taliya ..this is bane…let me go with bomb…and leave bane…catwoman comes…shoots Bane..doesnt fit standard of nolan..it could have been full with glory..besides these movie had some very intense moment which makes it very enjoyable ..once again if u are teenager and havent seen any of stanely kubrick , clint , pacino,kurosawa ,qentin tarentino , fincher, speilberg, nero , guy richie , korean epics ,martin scorsese , jack nicolson , hitchcokian epics …then u will find this very great movie..which i heared lots of people stating that this is best movie ever in their life…..

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  36. RAHUL

    August 9, 2012 at 11:38 PM

    sir pls write about TDNR in ravipurti pls atleast ek article to hovo ja joie imdb 13th rank

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  37. Praveer Parmar

    August 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Jaybhai, I totally agree with you about TDKR not above TDK.
    The same happened with Anurag Kashyap. GULAAL was his swansong. Even though the 2 GOWs are brilliant, they can’t touch the magnificence of GULAAL.

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  38. ashish desi

    February 5, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    jay bhai hamna j oscar nominations release thaya…suprised k the dark knight rises ne ek b nomination naa malyu…??atleast hans zimmer(for best music) and wally pfister ne (cinematography) mate nomination to malvuj joitu htu….and michael crain b avoide karvama avya…..!! aa vat ky samjani ny ??

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  39. Shiroya Dharmendra

    April 29, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    maja avi gai, agar ni matha kut vachi ne….

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  40. tapan shah

    મે 2, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    ek ek akshar sathe sahmat.best analysis.

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